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| This set of exercises will take you through a few examples of problem outputs, asking you to identify the problems and possible methods to fix the problems. Each example will have a before and after picture, as well as an explanation of how to fix the problems seen. '''<<TableOfContents>>''' |
This set of exercises will take you through a few examples of problem outputs, asking you to identify the problems and possible methods to fix the problems. Each example will have a before and after picture, as well as an explanation of how to fix the problems seen. '''<<TableOfContents>>''' -------- |
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| ''To copy: Highlight the command in the box above, right click and select copy (or use keyboard shortcut Ctrl+c), then use the middle button of your mouse to click inside the terminal window (this will paste the command). Press enter to run the command.'' These two commands set the SUBJECTS_DIR variable to the directory where the data is stored and then navigates into this directory. You can now skip ahead to the tutorial (below the gray line). |
''To copy: Highlight the command in the box above, right click and select copy (or use keyboard shortcut Ctrl+c), then use the middle button of your mouse to click inside the terminal window (this will paste the command). Press enter to run the command.'' These two commands set the SUBJECTS_DIR variable to the directory where the data is stored and then navigates into this directory. You can now skip ahead to the tutorial (below the gray line). |
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| == Failure Modes == Below, we ask you to look at several subjects with various errors that require manual intervention. Open each subject and try to identify the problem on your own. For each subject, there is a link to instructions on how to fix the problem. While you are trying to identify the problems with the subjects listed below you may find it helpful to refer back to the [[FsTutorial/OutputData|previous exercise]], or open your own instance of the subject good_output to compare these subjects to a good example. |
== Troubleshooting == Below, we ask you to look at several subjects with various errors that require manual intervention. Open each subject and try to identify the problem on your own. For each subject, there is a link to instructions on how to fix the problem. If you need a reminder of how to view the various outputs, you can refer back to the [[FsTutorial/OutputData_freeview|previous exercise]]. While troubleshooting, feel free to open other outputs for inspection. |
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| freeview -v pial_edits_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ -f pial_edits_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow pial_edits_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ pial_edits_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow pial_edits_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red |
freeview -v pial_edits_before/mri/T1.mgz \ pial_edits_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ -f pial_edits_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ pial_edits_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ pial_edits_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ pial_edits_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red |
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| The command above will open the brainmask.mgz and T1.mgz volumes and the surfaces for both hemispheres. Scroll through the slices of this subject to check the pial and white surfaces for accuracy, making sure they follow the actual gray/white boundaries and that they do not include anything that should not be included. | |
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| The command above will open the brainmask.mgz volume and the surfaces for both hemispheres. (You can feel free to open other volumes using the load volume button {{attachment:load.jpeg}} or to load in the aseg.mgz if you want or need to.Scroll through the slices of this subject to check the pial and white surfaces for accuracy, making sure they follow the actual gray/white boundaries and that they do not include anything that should not be included. If you would like to see the inflated surfaces for each hemisphere of this subject, '''open a second and third terminal window''', then open the surfaces in tksurfer: {{{ tksurfer pial_edits_before lh inflated }}} {{{ tksurfer pial_edits_before rh inflated }}} Once you have identified the problem (or have given up!), click [[FsTutorial/PialEdits|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it. |
Once you have identified the problem (or have given up!), click [[FsTutorial/PialEdits_freeview|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview. (Fix using [[FsTutorial/PialEdits_tktools|TkTools]]) |
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| tkmedit wm1_edits_before brainmask.mgz -aux T1.mgz -surfs | freeview -v wm1_edits_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ wm1_edits_before/mri/wm.mgz:colormap=heat:opacity=0.4 \ -f wm1_edits_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=blue \ wm1_edits_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ wm1_edits_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=blue \ wm1_edits_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red \ wm1_edits_before/surf/rh.inflated:visible=0 \ wm1_edits_before/surf/lh.inflated:visible=0 |
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| Again, this will bring up the brainmask.mgz volume, the T1.mgz volume, and the surfaces for both hemispheres. In your second and third terminal window, if not already open, open the surfaces in tksurfer: |
Again, this will bring up the brainmask, the wm.mgz volume, the surfaces for both hemispheres, as well as the inflated surfaces. The trouble with this subject has occurred during the white matter segmentation step. Check the surfaces in the brainmask volume to find the spot that does not match the actual gray/white boundary. In the wm.mgz volume you will see a hole in this area. If you are looking at the inflated surfaces in the 3D view, you will see a hole or dimple in the area in question. Click [[FsTutorial/WhiteMatterEdits_freeview|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview. (Fix using [[FsTutorial/WhiteMatterEdits_tktools|TkTools]]) You can also compare the original data to a corrected and rerun version, '''wm1_edits_after'''. To view this corrected subject (which was corrected by following the detailed instructions provided to you): |
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| tksurfer wm1_edits_before lh inflated }}} {{{ tksurfer wm1_edits_before rh inflated }}} This will open the inflated surfaces for both hemispheres in tksurfer. The trouble with this subject has occurred during the white matter segmentation step. Check the surfaces in the T1 volume to find the spot that does not match the actual gray/white boundary. If you load the wm.mgz volume as the aux volume you will see a hole in this area. If you are looking in tksurfer you will see a hole or dimple in the inflated surface. You can use the "save point" "goto point" commands to find this spot in the volume. Click [[FsTutorial/WhiteMatterEdits|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it. You can also compare the original data to a corrected and rerun version, '''wm1_edits_after'''. To view this corrected subject (which was corrected by following the detailed instructions provided to you): {{{ tkmedit wm1_edits_after brainmask.mgz -aux wm.mgz -surfs |
freeview -v wm1_edits_after/mri/T1.mgz \ wm1_edits_after/mri/brainmask.mgz \ -f wm1_edits_after/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ wm1_edits_after/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ wm1_edits_after/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ wm1_edits_after/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red |
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| Open the subject, '''topo_defect_before''', in tkmedit. | Open the subject, '''topo_defect_before''', in freeview. |
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| tkmedit topo_defect_before brainmask.mgz -aux wm.mgz -surfs | freeview -v topo_defect_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ topo_defect_before/mri/wm.mgz:colormap=heat:opacity=0.4 \ -f topo_defect_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ topo_defect_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ topo_defect_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ topo_defect_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red |
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| This will open the brainmask.mgz volume, the wm.mgz loaded as aux, and the surfaces for both hemispheres. Take a look at this subject, inspecting the various outputs that were mentioned in the [[FsTutorial/OutputData|previous exercise]] and see if you can identify what is wrong. ''Hint: It's a very small error in the posterior part of the brain.'' Once you spot the error, click [[FsTutorial/TopologicalDefect|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it. After you have fixed it, you can compare the original data to the a corrected and rerun version, '''topo_defect_after'''. To view this corrected subject: |
This will open the brainmask.mgz volume, the wm.mgz, and the surfaces for both hemispheres. Take a look at this subject and see if you can identify what is wrong. ''Hint: It's a very small error in the posterior part of the brain.'' Once you spot the error, click [[FsTutorial/TopologicalDefect_freeview|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview. (Fix using [[FsTutorial/TopologicalDefect_tktools|TkTools]]) After you have fixed it, you can compare the original data to the corrected and rerun version, '''topo_defect_after'''. To view this corrected subject: |
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| tkmedit topo_defect_after brainmask.mgz -aux wm.mgz -surfs | freeview -v topo_defect_after/mri/brainmask.mgz \ topo_defect_after/mri/wm.mgz:colormap=heat:opacity=0.4 \ -f topo_defect_after/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ topo_defect_after/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ topo_defect_after/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ topo_defect_after/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red |
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| Now, take a look at the next subject, '''skullstrip1_before''', in tkmedit. | Now, take a look at the next subject, '''skullstrip1_before''', in freeview. |
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| tkmedit skullstrip1_before brainmask.mgz -aux T1.mgz -surfs | freeview -v skullstrip1_before/mri/T1.mgz \ skullstrip1_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ -f skullstrip1_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ skullstrip1_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ skullstrip1_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ skullstrip1_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red |
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| This will open the brainmask.mgz volume, the T1.mgz loaded as aux, and the surfaces for both hemispheres. The trouble with this subject has occurred in the skull stripping step. Check the brainmask.mgz volume carefully, comparing it to the T1.mgz volume (loaded in aux) to make sure that the skull has been completely stripped away, leaving behind the complete cortex and the cerebellum. You can feel free to open other volumes in aux or to load in the aseg.mgz if you want or need to. Click [[FsTutorial/SkullStripFix|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it. You can also compare this to the finished version, '''skullstrip1_after'''. |
The trouble with this subject has occurred in the skull stripping step. Check the brainmask.mgz volume carefully, comparing it to the T1.mgz volume to make sure that the skull has been completely stripped away, leaving behind the complete cortex and the cerebellum. Click [[FsTutorial/SkullStripFix_freeview|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview. (Fix using [[FsTutorial/SkullStripFix_tktools|TkTools]]) You can also compare this to the finished version, '''skullstrip1_after'''. To view this corrected subject: {{{ freeview -v skullstrip1_after/mri/T1.mgz \ skullstrip1_after/mri/brainmask.mgz \ -f skullstrip1_after/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ skullstrip1_after/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ skullstrip1_after/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ skullstrip1_after/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red }}} |
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| tkmedit cp_before brainmask.mgz -aux T1.mgz -surfs | freeview -v cp_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ cp_before/mri/T1.mgz \ -f cp_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=blue \ cp_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ cp_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=blue \ cp_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red |
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| Again, this will bring up the brainmask.mgz volume, the T1.mgz volume, and the surfaces for both hemispheres. In your second terminal window, if not already open, open the surfaces in tksurfer: {{{ tksurfer cp_before lh inflated & tksurfer cp_before rh inflated & }}} This will open the inflated surfaces for both hemispheres in tksurfer. The trouble with this subject has occured during the intensity normalization. Check the white surface and be sure it is including all of the white matter as it should. If you find an area that is not included as white matter be sure to check to see that the intensity is at (or very close to) 110. You may need to open other volumes in order to see or fix the problem. Click [[FsTutorial/ControlPoints|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it. |
The trouble with this subject has occurred during the intensity normalization. Check the white surface and be sure it is including all of the white matter as it should. If you find an area that is not included as white matter be sure to check to see that the brainmask voxel intensity is at (or very close to) 110. Click [[FsTutorial/ControlPoints_freeview|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview. (Fix using [[FsTutorial/ControlPoints_tktools|TkTools]]) |
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| tkmedit tal_before brainmask.mgz -aux T1.mgz -surfs | freeview -v tal_before/mri/T1.mgz \ tal_before/mri/brainmask.mgz:reg=transforms/talairach.xfm |
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| Again, this will bring up the brainmask.mgz volume and the T1.mgz volume and the surfaces for both hemispheres. In a second and third terminal window, if not already open, open the surfaces in tksurfer: |
In a second terminal window, open the inflated surfaces in a new instance of freeview. (Note: Initially, only the right inflated hemisphere will be visible to prevent overlap) |
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| tksurfer tal_before lh inflated | freeview -f \ tal_before/surf/lh.inflated:visible=0 \ tal_before/surf/rh.inflated \ -viewport 3d |
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| {{{ tksurfer tal_before rh inflated }}} This will open the inflated surfaces for both hemispheres in tksurfer. |
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| You may need to open other volumes in order to see or fix the problem. Click [[FsTutorial/Talairach|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it. |
Click [[FsTutorial/Talairach_freeview|here]] for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview. (Fix using [[FsTutorial/Talairach_tktools|TkTools]]) |
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| We generally advise against editing the aseg.mgz unless absolutely necessary. Try using an xopts script first to change the intensity thresholds being used. Editing the aseg will add more variance to your data. Instructions on how to edit the aseg are [[TkMeditGuide/TkMeditWorkingWithData/TkMeditSegmentations|here]]. | We generally advise against editing the aseg.mgz unless absolutely necessary. Try using an xopts script first to change the intensity thresholds being used. Editing the aseg will add more variance to your data. Instructions on how to edit the aseg using Freeview are [[TkMeditGuide/TkMeditWorkingWithData/FreeviewSegmentations|here]]. (Edit using [[TkMeditGuide/TkMeditWorkingWithData/TkMeditSegmentations|TkTools]]) |
1. Troubleshooting your output
This set of exercises will take you through a few examples of problem outputs, asking you to identify the problems and possible methods to fix the problems. Each example will have a before and after picture, as well as an explanation of how to fix the problems seen.
1.1. Preparations
1.1.1. If You're at an Organized Course
If you are taking one of the formally organized courses, everything has been set up for you on the provided laptop. The only thing you will need to do is run the following commands in every new terminal window (aka shell) you open throughout this tutorial. Copy and paste the commands below to get started:
setenv SUBJECTS_DIR $TUTORIAL_DATA/buckner_data/tutorial_subjs cd $SUBJECTS_DIR
To copy: Highlight the command in the box above, right click and select copy (or use keyboard shortcut Ctrl+c), then use the middle button of your mouse to click inside the terminal window (this will paste the command). Press enter to run the command. These two commands set the SUBJECTS_DIR variable to the directory where the data is stored and then navigates into this directory. You can now skip ahead to the tutorial (below the gray line).
1.1.2. If You're not at an Organized Course
If you are NOT taking one of the formally organized courses, then to follow this exercise exactly be sure you've downloaded the tutorial data set before you begin. If you choose not to download the data set you can follow these instructions on your own data, but you will have to substitute your own specific paths and subject names. These are the commands that you need to run before getting started:
tcsh source your_freesurfer_dir/SetUpFreeSurfer.csh setenv SUBJECTS_DIR $TUTORIAL_DATA/buckner_data/tutorial_subjs cd $SUBJECTS_DIR
Notice the command to open tcsh. If you are already running the tcsh command shell, then the 'tcsh' command is not necessary. If you are not using the tutorial data you should set your SUBJECTS_DIR to the directory in which the recon(s) of the subject(s) you will use for this tutorial are located.
1.2. Troubleshooting
Below, we ask you to look at several subjects with various errors that require manual intervention. Open each subject and try to identify the problem on your own. For each subject, there is a link to instructions on how to fix the problem.
If you need a reminder of how to view the various outputs, you can refer back to the previous exercise. While troubleshooting, feel free to open other outputs for inspection.
1.2.1. Edits to the brainmask volume
Open the subject, pial_edits_before.
freeview -v pial_edits_before/mri/T1.mgz \ pial_edits_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ -f pial_edits_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ pial_edits_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ pial_edits_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ pial_edits_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red
The command above will open the brainmask.mgz and T1.mgz volumes and the surfaces for both hemispheres. Scroll through the slices of this subject to check the pial and white surfaces for accuracy, making sure they follow the actual gray/white boundaries and that they do not include anything that should not be included.
Once you have identified the problem (or have given up!), click here for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview.
(Fix using TkTools)
1.2.2. Edits to the wm volume
Now, take a look at the next subject, wm1_edits_before.
freeview -v wm1_edits_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ wm1_edits_before/mri/wm.mgz:colormap=heat:opacity=0.4 \ -f wm1_edits_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=blue \ wm1_edits_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ wm1_edits_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=blue \ wm1_edits_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red \ wm1_edits_before/surf/rh.inflated:visible=0 \ wm1_edits_before/surf/lh.inflated:visible=0
Again, this will bring up the brainmask, the wm.mgz volume, the surfaces for both hemispheres, as well as the inflated surfaces.
The trouble with this subject has occurred during the white matter segmentation step. Check the surfaces in the brainmask volume to find the spot that does not match the actual gray/white boundary. In the wm.mgz volume you will see a hole in this area. If you are looking at the inflated surfaces in the 3D view, you will see a hole or dimple in the area in question.
Click here for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview.
(Fix using TkTools)
You can also compare the original data to a corrected and rerun version, wm1_edits_after. To view this corrected subject (which was corrected by following the detailed instructions provided to you):
freeview -v wm1_edits_after/mri/T1.mgz \ wm1_edits_after/mri/brainmask.mgz \ -f wm1_edits_after/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ wm1_edits_after/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ wm1_edits_after/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ wm1_edits_after/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red
1.2.3. Correcting topological defects
Open the subject, topo_defect_before, in freeview.
freeview -v topo_defect_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ topo_defect_before/mri/wm.mgz:colormap=heat:opacity=0.4 \ -f topo_defect_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ topo_defect_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ topo_defect_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ topo_defect_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red
This will open the brainmask.mgz volume, the wm.mgz, and the surfaces for both hemispheres. Take a look at this subject and see if you can identify what is wrong. Hint: It's a very small error in the posterior part of the brain. Once you spot the error, click here for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview.
(Fix using TkTools)
After you have fixed it, you can compare the original data to the corrected and rerun version, topo_defect_after. To view this corrected subject:
freeview -v topo_defect_after/mri/brainmask.mgz \ topo_defect_after/mri/wm.mgz:colormap=heat:opacity=0.4 \ -f topo_defect_after/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ topo_defect_after/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ topo_defect_after/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ topo_defect_after/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red
1.2.4. Skull strip
Now, take a look at the next subject, skullstrip1_before, in freeview.
freeview -v skullstrip1_before/mri/T1.mgz \ skullstrip1_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ -f skullstrip1_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ skullstrip1_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ skullstrip1_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ skullstrip1_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red
The trouble with this subject has occurred in the skull stripping step. Check the brainmask.mgz volume carefully, comparing it to the T1.mgz volume to make sure that the skull has been completely stripped away, leaving behind the complete cortex and the cerebellum.
Click here for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview.
(Fix using TkTools)
You can also compare this to the finished version, skullstrip1_after. To view this corrected subject:
freeview -v skullstrip1_after/mri/T1.mgz \ skullstrip1_after/mri/brainmask.mgz \ -f skullstrip1_after/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ skullstrip1_after/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ skullstrip1_after/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=yellow \ skullstrip1_after/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red
1.2.5. Adding control points
Now, take a look at the next subject, cp_before.
freeview -v cp_before/mri/brainmask.mgz \ cp_before/mri/T1.mgz \ -f cp_before/surf/lh.white:edgecolor=blue \ cp_before/surf/lh.pial:edgecolor=red \ cp_before/surf/rh.white:edgecolor=blue \ cp_before/surf/rh.pial:edgecolor=red
The trouble with this subject has occurred during the intensity normalization. Check the white surface and be sure it is including all of the white matter as it should. If you find an area that is not included as white matter be sure to check to see that the brainmask voxel intensity is at (or very close to) 110.
Click here for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview.
(Fix using TkTools)
1.2.6. Talairach transformation
Now, take a look at the next subject, tal_before.
freeview -v tal_before/mri/T1.mgz \ tal_before/mri/brainmask.mgz:reg=transforms/talairach.xfm
In a second terminal window, open the inflated surfaces in a new instance of freeview. (Note: Initially, only the right inflated hemisphere will be visible to prevent overlap)
freeview -f \ tal_before/surf/lh.inflated:visible=0 \ tal_before/surf/rh.inflated \ -viewport 3d
The trouble with this subject is a little tricky to figure out. The midline cutting planes are not actually on the midline, but the real root of this problem is in one of the very initial steps of recon-all. The talairach transform is bad and will need to be fixed.
Click here for detailed instructions on how you can fix it using Freeview.
(Fix using TkTools)
1.2.7. Editing the Aseg
We generally advise against editing the aseg.mgz unless absolutely necessary. Try using an xopts script first to change the intensity thresholds being used. Editing the aseg will add more variance to your data. Instructions on how to edit the aseg using Freeview are here.
(Edit using TkTools)